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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 8:35:19 AM

Artist: The Goo Goo Dolls
Title: Iris
Tags: dizzy up the girl rock power pop alternative enid city of angels english
BPM: 154.5
Filesize: 8423kb
Play Time: 04:40
Difficulties Available:

• Track 11: Unconditional Love (5 stars, 888 notes)
  

Download: The Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#1
First Map, Ranked.

thank you to Digitalfear117 for absolute god of fixing my timings and help me with slider quirks

BATs: Digitalfear117 / Satori

difficulty settings need to be rounded, make overall difficulty either 8 or 9

sick map cant lie will mod later/ it has no hs but i can do those for u if u like (if i dont forget)

Slider Curve Warning:
00:27:832 (5) - The slider curve will not work correctly in older clients with it's current shape. It's best to avoid making full circles with Perfect Curves and instead do shapes like this with Bezier's. Here is what this would become on clients from before late 2012.

Normally I would tell (you) the mapper to fix these, but this is your first map, and honestly it's really nice. I don't want you to think that you messed up, this is not something the average osu! mapper ever has to consider. This only really applies to Titanic, and I'm anal about it because I don't want replays from people playing on older clients to show sliderbreaks when watched on newer clients. Here is another example showing how gameplay would change on this slider on your map

You can do a quick check on any slider to see if it will become messed up by clicking on it and swapping between S and F. If the path is hugely different, then it should probably be changed. This only works in my modded b20130303 client though.

I have made a similar shape using the Bezier type shape. Please open the .osu file in a text editor like notepad, and edit this line:
139,259,27832,2,0,P|141:198|65:201,1,122.25
To this instead:
139,259,27832,2,0,B|161:237|157:194|124:172|88:183,1,122.249999642372

Here is how my Bezier compares to the Original Slider

01:06:474 (1) - Change
307,20,66474,6,0,P|237:11|204:139,1,215.160001422501
to
307,20,66474,6,0,B|263:-8|206:2|176:49|172:92|197:129,1,215.160001422501

01:16:227 (3) - Change
120,90,76227,2,0,P|93:37|-15:62,1,162.999999523163
to
120,90,76227,2,0,B|117:21|24:-8|-15:62,1,162.999999523163

01:17:407 (6) - Change
281,195,77407,2,0,P|354:165|316:31,1,244.499999284744
to
281,195,77407,2,0,B|333:197|362:172|380:145|385:105|375:67|352:46|316:31,1,244.499999284744

01:25:039 (1) - Change
298,7,85039,6,0,P|208:-4|157:84,1,203.749999403954
to
298,7,85039,6,0,B|260:-23|206:-22|175:9|154:41|157:84,1,203.749999403954

01:29:977 (1) - Change
93,171,89977,6,0,P|139:199|231:123,1,162.999999523163
to
93,171,89977,6,0,B|148:233|234:186|231:123,1,162.999999523163

01:30:575 (2) - Change
31,41,90575,2,0,P|109:34|156:112,1,162.999999523163
to
31,41,90575,2,0,B|76:12|126:27|157:62|156:112,1,162.999999523163

01:34:562 (1) - Change
276,27,94562,6,0,P|224:3|119:104,1,203.749999403954
to
276,27,94562,6,0,B|237:-9|182:-10|132:18|116:62|119:104,1,203.749999403954

Change 01:36:954 (4) -
167,353,96954,2,0,P|234:386|304:305,1,162.999999523163
to
167,353,96954,2,0,B|192:387|245:412|302:369|306:309,1,162.999999523163

The other ones were like minor concerns, this one is a major concern
01:41:896 (1) - Change
223,319,101896,6,0,P|172:304|198:375,1,158.924996693283
to
223,319,101896,6,0,B|214:299|183:287|155:296|137:323|142:357|159:373|178:378|198:375,1,158.924996693283

01:45:447 (1) - Change
413,178,105447,6,0,P|355:161|281:232,1,158.924996693283
to
413,178,105447,6,0,B|375:145|294:157|281:232,1,158.924996693283

01:54:201 (2) - Change
71,271,114201,2,0,P|116:288|171:238,1,105.949997795522
to
71,271,114201,2,0,B|85:289|123:299|153:280|165:257,1,105.949997795522

01:56:070 (1) - Change
308,58,116070,6,0,P|208:134|136:110,1,211.899995591045
to
308,58,116070,6,0,B|288:128|197:159|136:110,1,211.899995591045

01:56:856 (3) - Change
110,35,116856,2,0,P|151:20|209:37,1,105.949997795522
to
110,35,116856,2,0,B|163:3|209:37,1,105.949997795522

02:21:144 (1) - Change
425,75,141144,6,0,P|475:86|492:218,1,179.300005887747
to
425,75,141144,6,0,B|486:71|517:113|538:166|492:218,1,179.300005887747

02:25:226 (1) - Change
317,26,145226,6,0,P|364:16|413:68,1,97.7999997138977
to
317,26,145226,6,0,B|341:9|366:11|391:21|409:49,1,97.7999997138977

02:25:973 (3) - Change
200,97,145973,2,0,P|250:117|287:246,1,195.599990100861
to
200,97,145973,2,0,B|264:106|302:160|301:208|287:246,1,195.599990100861

02:31:194 (1) - Change
215,244,151194,6,0,P|169:265|107:236,1,122.249999642372
to
215,244,151194,6,0,B|199:259|164:281|125:260|107:236,1,122.249999642372

02:31:951 (4) - Change
349,175,151951,2,0,P|229:82|221:15,1,228.199993891716
to
349,175,151951,2,0,B|256:165|213:81|221:15,1,228.199993891716

02:34:548 (3) - Change
323,335,154548,2,0,P|282:286|156:320,1,171.149995418787
to
323,335,154548,2,0,B|314:313|295:272|246:263|212:267|189:284|164:305,1,171.149995418787

02:40:799 (1) - Change
299,203,160799,6,0,P|233:161|209:271,1,211.899995591045
to
299,203,160799,6,0,B|284:156|231:135|173:164|156:232|209:271,1,211.899995591045

02:46:707 (1) - Change
420,271,166707,6,0,P|359:208|236:255,1,211.899995591045
to
420,271,166707,6,0,B|407:240|374:173|269:189|236:255,1,211.899995591045

02:49:616 (1) - Change
289,158,169616,6,0,P|266:78|400:77,1,211.899995591045
to
289,158,169616,6,0,B|238:120|250:32|317:17|355:21|392:59,1,211.899995591045

03:07:072 (1) - Change
334,173,187072,6,0,P|283:141|203:164,1,105.949997795522
to
334,173,187072,6,0,B|316:147|272:126|240:142|214:151,1,105.949997795522

03:24:525 (3) - Change
212,203,204525,2,0,P|273:259|387:194,1,224.124999344349
to
212,203,204525,2,0,B|239:270|308:278|364:263|387:194,1,224.124999344349

03:33:799 (1) - Change
129,43,213799,6,0,P|186:23|274:96,1,171.149995418787
to
129,43,213799,6,0,B|180:3|258:25|274:96,1,171.149995418787

03:38:438 (1) - Change
445,55,218438,6,0,P|378:28|295:160,1,228.199993891716
to
445,55,218438,6,0,B|382:-2|303:29|268:93|295:160,1,228.199993891716

03:54:438 (1) - Change
11,230,234438,6,0,P|81:252|156:154,1,171.149995418787
to
11,230,234438,6,0,B|52:269|108:257|157:232|158:156,1,171.149995418787

03:57:112 (2) - Change
270,32,237112,2,0,P|331:5|398:50,1,114.099996945858
to
270,32,237112,2,0,B|294:5|327:-2|358:-2|397:41,1,114.099996945858

03:58:277 (2) - Change
221,87,238277,2,0,P|209:18|142:30,1,114.099996945858
to
221,87,238277,2,0,B|228:77|235:61|234:43|228:28|211:12|193:2|172:2|145:27,1,114.099996945858

03:59:054 (1) - Change
313,372,239054,6,0,P|223:324|264:178,1,228.199993891716
to
313,372,239054,6,0,B|267:373|221:347|199:311|196:258|204:211|264:178,1,228.199993891716

04:07:091 (5) - Change
319,93,247091,2,0,P|379:85|419:220,1,228.199993891716
to
319,93,247091,2,0,B|393:57|453:115|459:177|415:225,1,228.199993891716

04:10:898 (2) - Change
306,176,250898,2,0,P|317:242|250:265,1,114.099996945858
to
122,110,250515,6,0,B|149:138|185:128|185:128|219:162|219:162|314:187,1,171.149995418787

04:11:665 (6) - Change
122,27,251665,2,0,P|51:56|61:171,1,171.149995418787
to
122,27,251665,2,0,B|76:24|39:44|2:113|60:172,1,171.149995418787

For the following you can just move the anchor point to the middle of the slider to resolve the issues

01:45:840 (2) - Change
338,355,105840,2,0,P|351:281|367:253,1,105.949997795522
to
338,355,105840,2,0,P|344:299|367:253,1,105.949997795522

01:52:529 (1) - Change
115,124,112529,6,0,P|179:102|221:119,1,105.949997795522
to
115,124,112529,6,0,P|163:102|221:119,1,105.949997795522

03:31:469 (1) - Change
320,158,211469,6,0,P|384:143|480:180,1,171.149995418787
to
320,158,211469,6,0,P|403:144|480:180,1,171.149995418787

04:29:831 (3) - Change
33,154,269831,2,0,P|62:161|114:204,1,97.799997015381
to
33,154,269831,2,0,P|84:172|114:204,1,97.7999950504305

General Mods:
I recommend applying the above changes first

You will need hitsounds, they don't need to be super complex. You could try asking Kagamine Rin if they are interested in hitsounding it, but I know they have accepted a few already and their backlog might be long. This song shouldn't be too bad to do on your own though.

01:53:315 (4) - I don't think this should be a reverse slider like this, just keep it simple with a 1/4 slider maybe something like this:

Digitalfear117 wrote:

Slider Curve Warning:
00:27:832 (5) - The slider curve will not work correctly in older clients with it's current shape. It's best to avoid making full circles with Perfect Curves and instead do shapes like this with Bezier's. Here is what this would become on clients from before late 2012.

Normally I would tell (you) the mapper to fix these, but this is your first map, and honestly it's really nice. I don't want you to think that you messed up, this is not something the average osu! mapper ever has to consider. This only really applies to Titanic, and I'm anal about it because I don't want replays from people playing on older clients to show sliderbreaks when watched on newer clients. Here is another example showing how gameplay would change on this slider on your map

You can do a quick check on any slider to see if it will become messed up by clicking on it and swapping between S and F. If the path is hugely different, then it should probably be changed. This only works in my modded b20130303 client though.

I have made a similar shape using the Bezier type shape. Please open the .osu file in a text editor like notepad, and edit this line:
139,259,27832,2,0,P|141:198|65:201,1,122.25
To this instead:
139,259,27832,2,0,B|161:237|157:194|124:172|88:183,1,122.249999642372

Here is how my Bezier compares to the Original Slider

01:06:474 (1) - Change
307,20,66474,6,0,P|237:11|204:139,1,215.160001422501
to
307,20,66474,6,0,B|263:-8|206:2|176:49|172:92|197:129,1,215.160001422501

01:16:227 (3) - Change
120,90,76227,2,0,P|93:37|-15:62,1,162.999999523163
to
120,90,76227,2,0,B|117:21|24:-8|-15:62,1,162.999999523163

01:17:407 (6) - Change
281,195,77407,2,0,P|354:165|316:31,1,244.499999284744
to
281,195,77407,2,0,B|333:197|362:172|380:145|385:105|375:67|352:46|316:31,1,244.499999284744

01:25:039 (1) - Change
298,7,85039,6,0,P|208:-4|157:84,1,203.749999403954
to
298,7,85039,6,0,B|260:-23|206:-22|175:9|154:41|157:84,1,203.749999403954

01:29:977 (1) - Change
93,171,89977,6,0,P|139:199|231:123,1,162.999999523163
to
93,171,89977,6,0,B|148:233|234:186|231:123,1,162.999999523163

01:30:575 (2) - Change
31,41,90575,2,0,P|109:34|156:112,1,162.999999523163
to
31,41,90575,2,0,B|76:12|126:27|157:62|156:112,1,162.999999523163

01:34:562 (1) - Change
276,27,94562,6,0,P|224:3|119:104,1,203.749999403954
to
276,27,94562,6,0,B|237:-9|182:-10|132:18|116:62|119:104,1,203.749999403954

Change 01:36:954 (4) -
167,353,96954,2,0,P|234:386|304:305,1,162.999999523163
to
167,353,96954,2,0,B|192:387|245:412|302:369|306:309,1,162.999999523163

The other ones were like minor concerns, this one is a major concern
01:41:896 (1) - Change
223,319,101896,6,0,P|172:304|198:375,1,158.924996693283
to
223,319,101896,6,0,B|214:299|183:287|155:296|137:323|142:357|159:373|178:378|198:375,1,158.924996693283

01:45:447 (1) - Change
413,178,105447,6,0,P|355:161|281:232,1,158.924996693283
to
413,178,105447,6,0,B|375:145|294:157|281:232,1,158.924996693283

01:54:201 (2) - Change
71,271,114201,2,0,P|116:288|171:238,1,105.949997795522
to
71,271,114201,2,0,B|85:289|123:299|153:280|165:257,1,105.949997795522

01:56:070 (1) - Change
308,58,116070,6,0,P|208:134|136:110,1,211.899995591045
to
308,58,116070,6,0,B|288:128|197:159|136:110,1,211.899995591045

01:56:856 (3) - Change
110,35,116856,2,0,P|151:20|209:37,1,105.949997795522
to
110,35,116856,2,0,B|163:3|209:37,1,105.949997795522

02:21:144 (1) - Change
425,75,141144,6,0,P|475:86|492:218,1,179.300005887747
to
425,75,141144,6,0,B|486:71|517:113|538:166|492:218,1,179.300005887747

02:25:226 (1) - Change
317,26,145226,6,0,P|364:16|413:68,1,97.7999997138977
to
317,26,145226,6,0,B|341:9|366:11|391:21|409:49,1,97.7999997138977

02:25:973 (3) - Change
200,97,145973,2,0,P|250:117|287:246,1,195.599990100861
to
200,97,145973,2,0,B|264:106|302:160|301:208|287:246,1,195.599990100861

02:31:194 (1) - Change
215,244,151194,6,0,P|169:265|107:236,1,122.249999642372
to
215,244,151194,6,0,B|199:259|164:281|125:260|107:236,1,122.249999642372

02:31:951 (4) - Change
349,175,151951,2,0,P|229:82|221:15,1,228.199993891716
to
349,175,151951,2,0,B|256:165|213:81|221:15,1,228.199993891716

02:34:548 (3) - Change
323,335,154548,2,0,P|282:286|156:320,1,171.149995418787
to
323,335,154548,2,0,B|314:313|295:272|246:263|212:267|189:284|164:305,1,171.149995418787

02:40:799 (1) - Change
299,203,160799,6,0,P|233:161|209:271,1,211.899995591045
to
299,203,160799,6,0,B|284:156|231:135|173:164|156:232|209:271,1,211.899995591045

02:46:707 (1) - Change
420,271,166707,6,0,P|359:208|236:255,1,211.899995591045
to
420,271,166707,6,0,B|407:240|374:173|269:189|236:255,1,211.899995591045

02:49:616 (1) - Change
289,158,169616,6,0,P|266:78|400:77,1,211.899995591045
to
289,158,169616,6,0,B|238:120|250:32|317:17|355:21|392:59,1,211.899995591045

03:07:072 (1) - Change
334,173,187072,6,0,P|283:141|203:164,1,105.949997795522
to
334,173,187072,6,0,B|316:147|272:126|240:142|214:151,1,105.949997795522

03:24:525 (3) - Change
212,203,204525,2,0,P|273:259|387:194,1,224.124999344349
to
212,203,204525,2,0,B|239:270|308:278|364:263|387:194,1,224.124999344349

03:33:799 (1) - Change
129,43,213799,6,0,P|186:23|274:96,1,171.149995418787
to
129,43,213799,6,0,B|180:3|258:25|274:96,1,171.149995418787

03:38:438 (1) - Change
445,55,218438,6,0,P|378:28|295:160,1,228.199993891716
to
445,55,218438,6,0,B|382:-2|303:29|268:93|295:160,1,228.199993891716

03:54:438 (1) - Change
11,230,234438,6,0,P|81:252|156:154,1,171.149995418787
to
11,230,234438,6,0,B|52:269|108:257|157:232|158:156,1,171.149995418787

03:57:112 (2) - Change
270,32,237112,2,0,P|331:5|398:50,1,114.099996945858
to
270,32,237112,2,0,B|294:5|327:-2|358:-2|397:41,1,114.099996945858

03:58:277 (2) - Change
221,87,238277,2,0,P|209:18|142:30,1,114.099996945858
to
221,87,238277,2,0,B|228:77|235:61|234:43|228:28|211:12|193:2|172:2|145:27,1,114.099996945858

03:59:054 (1) - Change
313,372,239054,6,0,P|223:324|264:178,1,228.199993891716
to
313,372,239054,6,0,B|267:373|221:347|199:311|196:258|204:211|264:178,1,228.199993891716

04:07:091 (5) - Change
319,93,247091,2,0,P|379:85|419:220,1,228.199993891716
to
319,93,247091,2,0,B|393:57|453:115|459:177|415:225,1,228.199993891716

04:10:898 (2) - Change
306,176,250898,2,0,P|317:242|250:265,1,114.099996945858
to
122,110,250515,6,0,B|149:138|185:128|185:128|219:162|219:162|314:187,1,171.149995418787

04:11:665 (6) - Change
122,27,251665,2,0,P|51:56|61:171,1,171.149995418787
to
122,27,251665,2,0,B|76:24|39:44|2:113|60:172,1,171.149995418787

For the following you can just move the anchor point to the middle of the slider to resolve the issues

01:45:840 (2) - Change
338,355,105840,2,0,P|351:281|367:253,1,105.949997795522
to
338,355,105840,2,0,P|344:299|367:253,1,105.949997795522

01:52:529 (1) - Change
115,124,112529,6,0,P|179:102|221:119,1,105.949997795522
to
115,124,112529,6,0,P|163:102|221:119,1,105.949997795522

03:31:469 (1) - Change
320,158,211469,6,0,P|384:143|480:180,1,171.149995418787
to
320,158,211469,6,0,P|403:144|480:180,1,171.149995418787

04:29:831 (3) - Change
33,154,269831,2,0,P|62:161|114:204,1,97.799997015381
to
33,154,269831,2,0,P|84:172|114:204,1,97.7999950504305

General Mods:
I recommend applying the above changes first

You will need hitsounds, they don't need to be super complex. You could try asking Kagamine Rin if they are interested in hitsounding it, but I know they have accepted a few already and their backlog might be long. This song shouldn't be too bad to do on your own though.

01:53:315 (4) - I don't think this should be a reverse slider like this, just keep it simple with a 1/4 slider maybe something like this:

fixed the slider incompatibility, please check if i missed something

as for 01:53:315 (4), I changed to 01:53:315 (4,5,6,7,1) - as a small burst pattern for following the drums in the background

Satori wrote:

difficulty settings need to be rounded, make overall difficulty either 8 or 9

changed to 8 (imported from modern stable)

Kagamine Rin wrote:

sick map cant lie will mod later/ it has no hs but i can do those for u if u like (if i dont forget)

please do, I would be really grateful for it as I am very new to hitsounding and i am pretty bad at it too

Kudosu? :D

It took me like 2 hours to make all the new slider shapes xd

Digitalfear117 wrote:

Kudosu? :D

It took me like 2 hours to make all the new slider shapes xd

forgot to give kudosu, very new to modding / ranking i only map for fun always :DD

Enid wrote:

forgot to give kudosu, very new to modding / ranking i only map for fun always :DD

That's okay! But you should give me kudosu on the long mod not the reply, this why it links to the mod on my profile if you click the kudosu post.

I don't know if I forgot to send a replacement for 04:05:734 (1) - or if you didn't copy this one, but this needs to be changed from a perfect curve to something else. I'll let you change this one xd

04:10:515 (1,1) - there's two notes here…

Your background is over 2.5mb, I'll compress this for you tomorrow

This map requires manual Audio Lead in Time. You can add this in song setup. For now add 1700ms. I might suggest a different value tomorrow, but now the map won’t instant start on old clients :D

Digitalfear117 wrote:

That's okay! But you should give me kudosu on the long mod not the reply, this why it links to the mod on my profile if you click the kudosu post.

I don't know if I forgot to send a replacement for 04:05:734 (1) - or if you didn't copy this one, but this needs to be changed from a perfect curve to something else. I'll let you change this one xd

04:10:515 (1,1) - there's two notes here…

Your background is over 2.5mb, I'll compress this for you tomorrow

This map requires manual Audio Lead in Time. You can add this in song setup. For now add 1700ms. I might suggest a different value tomorrow, but now the map won’t instant start on old clients :D

04:05:734 (1) - manually fixing the slider curve type using bezier properties
04:10:515 (1,1) - had to reopen modern stable for this but otherwise, not a big deal

audio lead in time added to your suggestion at 1700ms, should be right in time
as for background, used pinga to optimize from 2.7mb to measly 700kb (how)

i'm clueless about modding modern stuff xp

Overall:
- what's up with the unused image file called "Looks-Like-You-Were-Misusing-This-Feature-By-Going-Too-Fast-Fix-886x590.png"? i don't think we need that

Track 11:
- this is probably a me issue with not understanding modern way of combos, but i feel like they're inconsistent (like, why are 00:16:182 (4) and 00:18:512 (5) - not NC when 00:13:852 (1) and 00:20:842 (1) - are, etc.); they're likely not wrong, but i'm just clueless xp
- 00:57:031 (1) - this slider looks really ugly, maybe try some other catmull shape if possible
- consider adding another kiai on the map during the final minute of the song (between 03:31:469 and 04:22:039 or some other way), it would add more visual flare, making tha map more epic >:p

that's about it, i think it's good c:

Satori wrote:

i'm clueless about modding modern stuff xp

Overall:
- what's up with the unused image file called "Looks-Like-You-Were-Misusing-This-Feature-By-Going-Too-Fast-Fix-886x590.png"? i don't think we need that

Track 11:
- this is probably a me issue with not understanding modern way of combos, but i feel like they're inconsistent (like, why are 00:16:182 (4) and 00:18:512 (5) - not NC when 00:13:852 (1) and 00:20:842 (1) - are, etc.); they're likely not wrong, but i'm just clueless xp
- 00:57:031 (1) - this slider looks really ugly, maybe try some other catmull shape if possible
- consider adding another kiai on the map during the final minute of the song (between 03:31:469 and 04:22:039 or some other way), it would add more visual flare, making tha map more epic >:p

that's about it, i think it's good c:

overall: the one bg i forgot to delete that but it was my old bg for "editing" purposes

other than that, i would say that the first kiai on the catmull does looked kinda out of place so i might find a way to make it better

Update:
- Removed the "facebook blocked bg" (forgor to delete after finishing the map)
- applied NC for 00:16:570 (1)
- changed the catmull slider on 00:57:031 (1) - to a Bezier slider for compatibility on older clients
- added kiai from 03:31:469 (1) to 04:22:039 (1) -

Ping for more mods after you get HS :D