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Nikku
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10 hours ago bubblepop
(none of these it/it's are towards mapper)
yap
what's creativity anyways lets just circle stream :fire:

as much as i hate it, it's basically guaranteed ranked now since no one sees any issues with it but me xd

this does tell me what i need to follow in the future for titanic mapping, treat it the same as modern without really a care for era since you CANT convince me this isn't just like 2022-> farm mapping style

before someone mentions something like "why didn't you mod it" or similar, it's because based on past experiences it would have gone nowhere and only gotten me told something like "just say to delete it instead" (while i feel doing that to the top diff would improve the quality of the set, but i digress)

also more on that above, i'd say my issues with the map exactly but like, i cant?
with all of the stream patterns being the same half circle stream into half circle stream how can i say anything specific? what am i supposed to type?
i mean i can mention things to convert into wigglestreams instead of circlestreams because it fits the song better but i'll just be ignored since it's ranked in a few hours lol (i have noted the time btw since i'm dqing it rn)

i know this is a whole lotta yap for not a lot out of it but that's the point, i cant say anything because there i can due to how same everything is


one thing i will mention specifically outside of that box is, the top diff seems like forced streams in comparison to the rest, it's so out of place

Expert follows the song rather well and feels like an actual top diff to the set, has a decent bit of varity, has distances following intensity of the song, has patterns that fit rather well for the specific part of the song, and then Master just exists as stream map for the sake of streams with spaced streams in the kiai

basically what i'm saying is:
i agree with kurboh, mapset will be 100x better without the top diff in it's current state, even after the andrei mod, but i cant say anything exact about it cause like what can i say here to improve it without just saying "full entire remap" or something lol
Nikku
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10 hours ago
also btw this is NOT a veto before people yap about "yet another titanic veto"
this is a dq for quality concerns basically
Cloudpaw
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6 hours ago
> no one sees any issues with it but me xd


great so it won't be ranked then, glad to have tried to rank a map on Titanic for it to get dq'd twice without a mod
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Cloudpaw
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6 hours ago

Nikku wrote:

also btw this is NOT a veto before people yap about "yet another titanic veto"
this is a dq for quality concerns basically


What Are You Dqing For Then Tell Me
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Nikku
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6 hours ago
did you read i DID say the reason
Cloudpaw
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5 hours ago

Nikku wrote:

did you read i DID say the reason


I am fully aware of all the vague gesturing you did about the streams but not aware of anything I can do to fix it
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3 hours ago
you arent making a point here. kurboh backtracked on the veto and it shouldn't matter to you either. the map is fine, you just want to start shit lol
re-nomming, your words genuinely mean nothing
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Cloudpaw
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2 hours ago
I'm going to create a full response to the DQ post (which is more like a veto than anything) by Nikku even though it's written without intent to actually discuss anything with me despite the fact that I'm a good faith actor trying to truthfully and genuinely rank a map I think belongs on Titanic as an active Titanic community member, player, and staff member

Nikku wrote:

before someone mentions something like "why didn't you mod it" or similar, it's because based on past experiences it would have gone nowhere and only gotten me told something like "just say to delete it instead" (while i feel doing that to the top diff would improve the quality of the set, but i digress)


I dismissed Kurboh's veto as non-productive because it literally was, word for word, asking me to nerf or remove my map because I as a top Twenty player on Bancho could FC it, and then after it was clarified that it was vetoed because I made a map for me to play (even though I've been complaining for millions of years now that high SR maps simply aren't getting ranked on Titanic, so I took the initiative to rank one myself). then throwing in "the lower diffs are messy and need mods" (did not mod, so what am I supposed to do?)

the insistence that I am not open for discussion or changes is another spit in my face from absolutely nowhere even though I reworked entire sections of the maps for Andrei's mods. I am not someone who is impossible to work with and I have stated time and time again if you give me something to work with (in this case, a MOD) I will work with it. I am open to improving the map. If you want me to improve the map too, you have to give me Something to improve, not just wave your hands around and claim "quality concerns" and claim it's "out of place".

Nikku wrote:

also more on that above, i'd say my issues with the map exactly but like, i cant?
with all of the stream patterns being the same half circle stream into half circle stream how can i say anything specific? what am i supposed to type?


this seems more like a modding skill issue (not being able to describe the problem) than an inherent problem with my map. the "circle streams" you are describing is most likely just My Style for mapping streams, and with…

Nikku wrote:

i mean i can mention things to convert into wigglestreams instead of circlestreams because it fits the song better but i'll just be ignored since it's ranked in a few hours lol (i have noted the time btw since i'm dqing it rn)


I don't even know where to start with "wigglestreams" because of the aforementioned lack of intention to help me Make The Map Better. What do you mean by this. What am I supposed to do with this information. throwing me crumbs and telling me to Remap or Delete. I can't read your mind. I can't Extrapolate from Vague Gesturing

Nikku wrote:

one thing i will mention specifically outside of that box is, the top diff seems like forced streams in comparison to the rest, it's so out of place

Expert follows the song rather well and feels like an actual top diff to the set, has a decent bit of varity, has distances following intensity of the song, has patterns that fit rather well for the specific part of the song, and then Master just exists as stream map for the sake of streams with spaced streams in the kiai


"The top difficulty of a stream map has spaced streams" fork found in kitchen, please give real commentary about the map 🙏

Nikku wrote:

what's creativity anyways lets just circle stream :fire:

this does tell me what i need to follow in the future for titanic mapping, treat it the same as modern without really a care for era since you CANT convince me this isn't just like 2022-> farm mapping style


W sarcasm to ignite the flame though, you knew very well in the first place that you were starting drama by posting this nonsense. I found this page as first result on a quick web search that might be helpful, for the giving part especially. I'm not going to seriously respond to throw-in inflammatory comments. Engage with me seriously and I will seriously respond to your concerns about the map. Give me real suggestions and I will consider them.
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Cloudpaw
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2 hours ago
tl;dr mod my map
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Nikku
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2 hours ago
ok so question
Nikku
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2 hours ago
what part of that message makes it so you can COMPLETELY ignore it and say it's not a mod
Nikku
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2 hours ago
(i said that in response to the scug scag whoever said it same text)
Cloudpaw
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2 hours ago

Nikku wrote:

what part of that message makes it so you can COMPLETELY ignore it and say it's not a mod


to be fair if it is supposed to be a mod it's not a very productive one. like I said, if you want to start a dialogue for feedback, the cooperation goes both ways. I cannot do anything with what you said. try to compromise. show me things I can do. do anything other than disrespect me with sarcasm like you did at the start. I am absolutely still staying open for constructive criticism like I have repeated over and over. thanks.
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Nikku
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2 hours ago

Cloudpaw wrote:


the insistence that I am not open for discussion or changes is another spit in my face from absolutely nowhere even though I reworked entire sections of the maps for Andrei's mods. I am not someone who is impossible to work with and I have stated time and time again if you give me something to work with (in this case, a MOD) I will work with it. I am open to improving the map. If you want me to improve the map too, you have to give me Something to improve, not just wave your hands around and claim "quality concerns" and claim it's "out of place".


a response to me trying to mod jumps:
Cloudpaw
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2 hours ago

Nikku wrote:

Cloudpaw wrote:


the insistence that I am not open for discussion or changes is another spit in my face from absolutely nowhere even though I reworked entire sections of the maps for Andrei's mods. I am not someone who is impossible to work with and I have stated time and time again if you give me something to work with (in this case, a MOD) I will work with it. I am open to improving the map. If you want me to improve the map too, you have to give me Something to improve, not just wave your hands around and claim "quality concerns" and claim it's "out of place".


a response to me trying to mod jumps:


if you cut out the context of your initial feedback for the jumps (a video that you sent selecting an entire section and scaling it down) yeah it looks bad. but if you include the context of you doing a similar behavior just above the screenshot you already did that. this is also not Discord and you are directly preventing me from ranking a map in an official manner. this is now a spite DQ then!
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